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PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
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Lomarcan
2004-12-23 23:01:07 UTC
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PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK

Press Release--American News Kiosk
December 23, 2004

UK--The 2005 publication of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the
sixth book in the wildly popular series by J. K. Rowling, has been postponed
indefinitely due to a copyright lawsuit filed by, strangely enough, fellow
Brits John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, and Michael Palin, the surviving
members of the "Monty Python" comedy troupe.

In episode 7 of "Monty Python's Flying Circus," a skit titled "Science
Fiction Sketch" has a character named Harold Potter. The episode was first
aired November 11, 1969, which the Python's solicitor (A. Elliott) claims
gives them exclusive rights to the use of the name.

In the sketch, Harold Potter was the first person in England to become a
victim of invaders from another planet: huge, sentient blancmanges from the
planet Skyron in the galaxy of Andromeda. These blancmanges use a ray to
change people into Scotsmen, as part of an overall scheme to win at
Wimbledon. The Pythons point to numerous similarities between their "Harold
Potter" and Rowling's "Harry Potter": they both live in England, they are
both male, they both wear glasses, both possess the same number of limbs,
and both of them are removed from the natural course of their lives due to
unexpected circumstances. It is unknown if Harold Potter (played by Michael
Palin) had a scar on his forehead -- the character wore a hat both before
and after his transformation.

"The Python group is well-known for having characters with bizarre names,"
Elliott argues. "Mrs. Non-Gorilla, Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git, Jethro
Walrustitty...'Harold Potter' is clearly another of their unique creations.
When the episode first aired, Rowling was 4 years old, making it highly
unlikely that she thought of the name first."

If the outcome of the suit falls in favor of the Pythons, they will be
entitled to a significant percentage of the author's earnings from the Harry
Potter books, movies, and related merchandise, estimated at £435m (Times
Online, 18 April 2004). Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We didn't expect
the Spanish Inquisition."
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Lorn
2004-12-23 23:36:41 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
Press Release--American News Kiosk
December 23, 2004
UK--The 2005 publication of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the
sixth book in the wildly popular series by J. K. Rowling, has been postponed
indefinitely due to a copyright lawsuit filed by, strangely enough, fellow
Brits John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, and Michael Palin, the surviving
members of the "Monty Python" comedy troupe.
In episode 7 of "Monty Python's Flying Circus," a skit titled "Science
Fiction Sketch" has a character named Harold Potter. The episode was first
aired November 11, 1969, which the Python's solicitor (A. Elliott) claims
gives them exclusive rights to the use of the name.
ROFTL

And just when we thought they left the stage, another sketch... Oh, the
masters of absurd have done it again. I know it's a joke, but it's their
kind of joke.

This IS a joke, right?

If not - does John Cleese realise that when hordes of fans don't get
their book this summer, he might not need CGI to play a nearly-beheaded
ghost... ;)
--
Leszek 'Lorn' Rybicki
Jim
2004-12-24 03:52:53 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We
didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition."
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Jim
Dave Hinz
2004-12-27 21:47:23 UTC
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Post by Jim
Post by Lomarcan
Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We
didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition."
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I knew someone was going to say that.
Eric Bohlman
2004-12-29 23:25:52 UTC
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Post by Dave Hinz
Post by Jim
Post by Lomarcan
Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We
didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition."
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I knew someone was going to say that.
Tie-in: JKR and Cardinal Ximenez are equally bad at math.

Toon
2004-12-24 05:50:58 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
Press Release--American News Kiosk
December 23, 2004
UK--The 2005 publication of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the
sixth book in the wildly popular series by J. K. Rowling, has been postponed
indefinitely due to a copyright lawsuit filed by, strangely enough, fellow
Brits John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, and Michael Palin, the surviving
members of the "Monty Python" comedy troupe.
In episode 7 of "Monty Python's Flying Circus," a skit titled "Science
Fiction Sketch" has a character named Harold Potter. The episode was first
aired November 11, 1969, which the Python's solicitor (A. Elliott) claims
gives them exclusive rights to the use of the name.
In the sketch, Harold Potter was the first person in England to become a
victim of invaders from another planet: huge, sentient blancmanges from the
planet Skyron in the galaxy of Andromeda. These blancmanges use a ray to
change people into Scotsmen, as part of an overall scheme to win at
Wimbledon. The Pythons point to numerous similarities between their "Harold
Potter" and Rowling's "Harry Potter": they both live in England, they are
both male, they both wear glasses, both possess the same number of limbs,
and both of them are removed from the natural course of their lives due to
unexpected circumstances. It is unknown if Harold Potter (played by Michael
Palin) had a scar on his forehead -- the character wore a hat both before
and after his transformation.
"The Python group is well-known for having characters with bizarre names,"
Elliott argues. "Mrs. Non-Gorilla, Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git, Jethro
Walrustitty...'Harold Potter' is clearly another of their unique creations.
When the episode first aired, Rowling was 4 years old, making it highly
unlikely that she thought of the name first."
If the outcome of the suit falls in favor of the Pythons, they will be
entitled to a significant percentage of the author's earnings from the Harry
Potter books, movies, and related merchandise, estimated at £435m (Times
Online, 18 April 2004). Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We didn't expect
the Spanish Inquisition."
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ACRONYM THE NEWS SOURCE
ANAGRAM THE SOLICITOR
SMILE!
This mighta been funny when Book 1 came out. Or if John Cleese hadn't
signed onto the movies (and made more sense too). Or we all had
lobotomies.
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MisterE
2004-12-24 09:58:51 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We didn't expect
the Spanish Inquisition."
Ha Ha Har, not funny.
Louis Epstein
2004-12-24 20:27:10 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
Press Release--American News Kiosk
December 23, 2004
HOLD IT!!

This press release was supposed to be embargoed until April 1!

Don't be surprised if the suit goes nowhere after this loose talk...

:-)

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Home
2004-12-24 23:49:37 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
Dear Sir:
I wish to complain about the previous message.
It's just silly. This newsgroup is getting much to silly.
Stop it now!

Yours truly,
Major-General Stuffme Sweetly
British Expeditionary Force
Poponeina-tart
France
P***@YAHOO.COM
2004-12-25 07:02:58 UTC
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Dear SIr,

I apologize for the previous letter.
Since I am n the holiday mood I apologize for the platapus too.
Yours,
Lance Cpl. Ty Bottomly Liberely (Mrs.)
P***@YAHOO.COM
2004-12-25 07:03:03 UTC
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Dear SIr,

I apologize for the previous letter.
Since I am n the holiday mood I apologize for the platapus too.
Yours,
Lance Cpl. Ty Bottomly Liberely (Mrs.)
Lomarcan
2004-12-25 15:08:20 UTC
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Dear Old Codgers:

Since I'm the one that started the whole fiasco, I apologize for not having
apologized earlier, and I now apologize. Incidentally, I'm sure John Cleese
would be behind the lawsuit 100%...which do you think would pay more, a few
brief appearances as Nearly Headless Nick, or a significant percentage of
Rowling's earnings? And he apologizes for having nothing to do with this
letter. As do the rest of the Pythons, except for Graham Chapman, who
apologizes for being dead, and nearly headless. Terry Gilliam apologizes for
being an American, which I also apologize for, having "elected" and
"re-elected" a mentally challenged chimp as our leader. Sorry this apology
is rambling a bit, but I'm over 3,000 years old. Hope the lawsuit proceeds
without interruption, skating vicars, or violent disturbances by Police
Constable Pan Am.

Yours fictionally,
Biggles (deceased)
Craig McMartin
2004-12-26 14:40:58 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
I wish to complain about the previous message.
It's just silly. This newsgroup is getting much to silly.
Stop it now!
Yours truly,
Major-General Stuffme Sweetly
British Expeditionary Force
Poponeina-tart
France
*barges into the thread in a generals uniform* Right stop that! This thread
has got entirelly too silly! Now on my signal, we shall cut to the next
thread.

.....

WAIT FOR IT!!!...

and......cue the next thread!
Ian Patton
2004-12-25 14:54:17 UTC
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Post by Lomarcan
PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
Press Release--American News Kiosk
December 23, 2004
UK--The 2005 publication of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the
sixth book in the wildly popular series by J. K. Rowling, has been
postponed indefinitely due to a copyright lawsuit filed by, strangely
enough, fellow Brits John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, and Michael
Palin, the surviving members of the "Monty Python" comedy troupe.
Snip<
...yawn...

Ian
George Johnson
2004-12-25 23:55:41 UTC
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"Lomarcan" <***@charter.net> wrote in message news:yfIyd.24578$***@fe06.lga...
| PYTHON LAWSUIT HALTS PUBLICATION OF SIXTH "POTTER" BOOK
|
| Press Release--American News Kiosk
| December 23, 2004
|
| UK--The 2005 publication of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the
| sixth book in the wildly popular series by J. K. Rowling, has been
postponed
| indefinitely due to a copyright lawsuit filed by, strangely enough, fellow
| Brits John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, and Michael Palin, the
surviving
| members of the "Monty Python" comedy troupe.
|
| In episode 7 of "Monty Python's Flying Circus," a skit titled "Science
| Fiction Sketch" has a character named Harold Potter. The episode was first
| aired November 11, 1969, which the Python's solicitor (A. Elliott) claims
| gives them exclusive rights to the use of the name.
|
| In the sketch, Harold Potter was the first person in England to become a
| victim of invaders from another planet: huge, sentient blancmanges from
the
| planet Skyron in the galaxy of Andromeda. These blancmanges use a ray to
| change people into Scotsmen, as part of an overall scheme to win at
| Wimbledon. The Pythons point to numerous similarities between their
"Harold
| Potter" and Rowling's "Harry Potter": they both live in England, they are
| both male, they both wear glasses, both possess the same number of limbs,
| and both of them are removed from the natural course of their lives due to
| unexpected circumstances. It is unknown if Harold Potter (played by
Michael
| Palin) had a scar on his forehead -- the character wore a hat both before
| and after his transformation.
|
| "The Python group is well-known for having characters with bizarre names,"
| Elliott argues. "Mrs. Non-Gorilla, Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git, Jethro
| Walrustitty...'Harold Potter' is clearly another of their unique
creations.
| When the episode first aired, Rowling was 4 years old, making it highly
| unlikely that she thought of the name first."
|
| If the outcome of the suit falls in favor of the Pythons, they will be
| entitled to a significant percentage of the author's earnings from the
Harry
| Potter books, movies, and related merchandise, estimated at £435m (Times
| Online, 18 April 2004). Rowling has not publicly responded to the suit;
| however, the Pythons were unofficially quoted as saying: "We didn't expect
| the Spanish Inquisition."
| -----------------
| ACRONYM THE NEWS SOURCE
| ANAGRAM THE SOLICITOR
| SMILE!

[clipped from below Copy & Paste]
Harold Potter, gardener, and tax official, first victim of Creatures from
another Planet.

(Weird electronic music. Sinister atmosphere. Follow him out of station.
Cut-away to flying saucer, over day skyline. Back to Potter as he walks up
suburban road. Back to flying saucer. It bleeps as if it has seen its prey
and changes direction. Cut back to Potter just about to open his front gate.
Shot from over the other side of the road. Cut to flying saucer sending down
ray. Potter freezes . . . shivers and turns into a Scotsman with kilt, and
red beard. His hand jerks out in front of him and he spins round and
scuttles up road in fast motion, to the accompaniment of bagpipe music. Cut
to close-up of newspaper with banner headline: 'Man turns into a Scotsman'.)
[end clip]

So... Book #7 is now "Harry Potter and The Scotsman Surprise" or is it
"Harry Potter Gets Kilt"?

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/
Monty Python's Flying Circus: The Sketches

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/one.htm#7
SEVEN - Titled: "You're no fun any more"
Recorded on 10th October 1969 and first shown on 30th November 1969

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/scifi.htm
Science Fiction Sketch
As featured in the Flying Circus TV Show - Episode 7

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
The cast:
VOICE OVER
Eric Idle
REDCOAT
Michael Palin
AMERICAN VOICE
John Cleese
MAN
Graham Chapman
WOMAN
Eric Idle
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

The sketch:
(We see a photo of a man with pipe.)
Voice Over: And now here is a reminder about leaving your radio on during
the night. Leave your radio on during the night.

(Cut to redcoat.)

Redcoat: A little joke, a little jest. Nothing to worry about ladies and
gentlemen. Now we've got some science fiction for you, some sci-fi,
something to send the shivers up your spine, send the creepy crawlies down
your lager and limes. All the lads have contributed to it, it's a little
number entitled, Science Fiction Sketch...

(Zoom through the galaxy to the solar system.)

American Voice: (very resonant) The Universe consists of a billion, billion
galaxies... 77,000,000,000 miles across, and every galaxy is made up of a
billion, zillion stars and around these stars circle a billion planets, and
of all of these planets the greenest and the pleasantest is the planet
Earth, in the system of Sol, in the Galaxy known as the Milky Way ... And it
was to this world that creatures of an alien planet came ... to conquer and
destroy the very heart of civilization...

(Mix into close-up of radway station sign: 'New Pudsey'. Pull out to
mid-shot of a couple walking towards camera. They are middle-aged. He wears
a cricket blazer and grey flannels and a carrier bag. She wears a fussy
print dress.)

American Voice: (gently) It was a day like any other and Mr and Mrs Samuel
Brainsample were a perfectly ordinary couple, leading perfectly ordinary
lives - the sort of people to whom nothing extraordinary ever happened, and
not the kind of people to be the centre of one of the most astounding
incidents in the history of mankind ... So let's forget about them and
follow instead the destiny of this man ... (camera pans off them; they both
look disappointed; camera picks up instead a swan little business man, in
bowler, briefcase and pinstripes) ... Harold Potter, gardener, and tax
official, first victim of Creatures from another Planet.

(Weird electronic music. Sinister atmosphere. Follow him out of station.
Cut-away to flying saucer, over day skyline. Back to Potter as he walks up
suburban road. Back to flying saucer. It bleeps as if it has seen its prey
and changes direction. Cut back to Potter just about to open his front gate.
Shot from over the other side of the road. Cut to flying saucer sending down
ray. Potter freezes . . . shivers and turns into a Scotsman with kilt, and
red beard. His hand jerks out in front of him and he spins round and
scuttles up road in fast motion, to the accompaniment of bagpipe music. Cut
to close-up of newspaper with banner headline: 'Man turns into a Scotsman'.)
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/scotsman.htm
Lomarcan
2004-12-27 01:06:17 UTC
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Post by George Johnson
So... Book #7 is now "Harry Potter and The Scotsman Surprise" or is it
"Harry Potter Gets Kilt"?
Oh, god, that is SO bad...and yet I'm laughing my ass off. Go figure. :)
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